tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN March 28, 2012 2:00am-3:00am EDT
the russian president rips mitt romney today. calls the supreme court hearing a train wreck for the obama administration and harry read tries to rip him. and a jet blue pilot has to be restrained by six passengers. it's a big day. let's go outfront. good evening. i'm erin burnett. mitt romney set off some alarms from washington to moscow when he said this about russia. >> this is without question our number one geopolitical foe. they fight every cause for the world's worst actors. >> this is the same man who warns that "a china that is a prosprr s tyrany will impose problems for us." lame duck russian leader fired back.
>> it is very reminiscent of hollywood. my first advice is to listen to reason. reason never harmed a presidential candidate. my other advice is to check their clocks from time to time. it is 2012 and not the mid 1970s. >> hold on. calling romney hollywood? sort of interesting considering his boss, vladimir putin enjoys hollywood himself. there in 2009 vacationing in the rugged siberian region riding a horse shirtless and the ancient jugs he retrieved that were planted for him ahead of time. the russians weren't the only ones tough on romney today. the speaker of the house, john boehner had something to say to his party's likely nominee.
>> clearly the president is overseas and at a conference. while the president is overseas i think it is appropriate that people not be critical of him or of our country. >> finally. he is the winner in today's game of sand box politics. it sounds like the speaker was trying to rise above the rhetoric which started with a little moment caught on camera on a live mic yesterday. that comment was about the missile defense shield but president obama has championed and russia opposes. it overshadowed a lot of the president's trip to sol. we pointed out that something that russia wants is problematic.
so today the president tried to explain himself. >> first of all are the mics on? look, what i said yesterday is i think something that everybody in this room understands. arms control is extraordinary complex and technical. the only way to get it done is if you can consult and build a strong basis of understanding between countries as well as within countries. i don't think it is a surprise that you can't start that a few months before a presidential and congressional election in the united states and at a time when they just completed elections in russia. >> when the explanation is a lot longer than the offense you might have been better off. the only winner is boehner with his support.
great to have you with us. we had to have a little fun there with that. it's hard to make fun of the hollywood thing. did mitt romney make a mistake coming out on this particular issue? >> it might have been a bit of an overstatement. i think he is right to be skeptical of the motivations. the russians had behaved as a very bad actor in a number of regions. they have talked about aiding iran in terms of sophisticated air defenses. they have stymied into our ability to engage. they are threatening to states who are our core allize. i think there is reason to be skeptical. >> what about the president trying to give a long explainer to what was a mistake to be overheard. >> he doesn't usually make these open mic booboos so it was unusual for him.
what is interesting to me is given this should have been a bit of a net loss for the president, romney has made it much worse for himself. this bluster of russia is our number one strategic enemy. last week it was iran. a lot of people know it is china. it looked like between the president of russia and the president of the united states and romney. he was not presidential. >> to be saying someone is the biggest threat. they are all crucial issues, threats, whatever word you want to use. >> let's not forget the key thing. last week the russian president was engaging a tremendous bluster about the missile defense shield. people say we are going to take action without specifying what the action would be. the united states and allies want to build a missile defense shield tool protect those states presumably against the threat against iran.
the president then says -- >> i think is what michael is saying. that's a potential issue. >> you don't want to negotiate in public. in the context of a presidential campaign like this it wasn't great for president obama but it made it less of a winning issue. >> it is not great for poland. if you are poland how do you feel when the president is caught saying this kind of thing when he thinks no one is listening. that's what i'm concerned about. >> most americans are not that worried about poland. they are more worried about themselves. >> what president obama said is open to lots of interpretations. nobody wants to negotiate in this crazy political -- >> let's go to the winner. what john boehner said was pretty incredible. he did not take the opportunity to jump on the president. he said back off. this isn't the time to pick on
him. >> it was a rare and welcome moment of old school statesmanship that partisanship ends at the water's edge. it was welcome. i think president obama's mic slip raises real questions about the fact that he hasn't laid out a vision for a second term yet but romney's gap compiles a problem we have seen which is talk of foreign policy has been limited. that is insufficient to the responsibilities of being president. congratulations for raising the bar. >> i have to say i thought that wasn't necessary. he didn't have to comment at all but he chose the throw the olive branch out. >> who knows? perhaps john boehner is looking forward to working with the president in the future but i think it was a sensible thing for him to do. >> speaker boehner often looks like a sensible person trapped in the crazyiness of his own congress.
we saw that in his efforts to get a big deal last summer. this may be a glimpse of the real speaker boehner who might want to be a statesman who can reach across the aisle. >> it is sensible to be concerned about erratic russian behavior. he was reaching out to the west and extending olive branches and now engaging this rhetoric before putin comes back into the show. >> boehner is just saying this isn't the time. >> it is deeply sensible to be concerned about russian behavior and sensible to send clear signals about who our friends are and how we are going to respond. >> does he need to clarify what he meant there? >> the president has a year to clarify. romney can't just use the etch a sketch on this one. this is not ready for prime time
attitude. >> it was barack obama who was the etch a sketch. >> it is kind of a lot of politicians. maybe i'm just really cynical. we are going to take a break. the latest from the hearing for the supreme court. will it derail the president's health care mandate? there was some real firing up about this. ♪
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breaking news. a jet blue pilot forced an emergency landing today when he ran through the aisles of his plane reportedly screaming about bombs and telling passengers the plane could go down. take a look at video. the captain reportedly went on the rant. >> this will take another minute so please bear with us. >> after emerging from the bathroom. he was subdued by a group of passengers. one of them put a choke hold on him. the plane was bound to las vegas from new york's john f kennedy airport.
after the diversion it has just landed in las vegas a moment ago. it is on the tarmac. jason is on the plane and joins us on the phone. so you have landed safely. was it still -- the same people on your flight this morning. it must have been a little scary. >> yes. to say the least it was. >> tell me exactly what happened, what he said and when you realize something went wrong. >> he came out of the cockpit pretty unannounced and started speaking irately, not really understanding what was going on. and he decided to walk to the back of the plane. he decided to then bang on the cockpit door demanding it to be open. yelling give me the code to get in, telling the pilot to put it
in idle. that's when everyone jumped up. the front six rows subdued him and took him to the ground. >> where were you sitting? >> first row. two feet away. >> you were one of the people restraining him? >> i was one of the six people holding him down. i was helping them and getting the seat belts restraints to them. giving them direction on how to be able to do it and trying to ask for hand cuffs, restraints, seat belts. >> tell me what he was saying. we heard he was talking about bombs. he may have used the words "israel" or "afghanistan" can you tell me the words he was using? can you hear me? jason is just sitting on the plane as it landed.
could you remember any of the specific words he used? >> i did not hear that. i never heard that word. i don't know why people are saying that. he did yell israel and iran. he did yell we got him, yeah, yeah. more like not a terrorist type of thing but more america, we got them, that type of thing. i don't feel it was a terrorist situation. >> when you were restraining him, how hard did he fight back? did you get to look in his eyes and get a sense of whether he was completely there or not with it? >> he was not yelling like that. he was irate. we were able to subdue him. everyone just stood on top of him, knees to his back, restraints around his ankles and held him down. just held him down so he wouldn't move. >> and how did the professionals
on board-thf the flight attendants. >> the crew was unbelievable. if i ever fly again it would be with them. they were unbelievable crew. they kept everyone together. we all worked together. >> and what's your background? you sound like you know about restraining people. do you know what you were doing? >> the whole plane basically was filled with security professionals. there is a security conference this week. we are all security professionals in the surveillance field. >> that's a pretty incredible coincidence. that is amazing. before you go, you are actually alive. >> i am actually alive. >> you are live. i want to play a clip if you can hear this. >> i'm on live with cnn right now.
>> this is what happens. you know it is late when none of us can imagine what it is like. here is a quick clip of what the captain said. we want to get you to react and tell you how this played out. here it is. >> we got israel. we got iraq. >> sounds like he said we have israel. we have iraq. we are going to get bombed. he used the word distraught. it sounded like he said i'm so distraught. >> that sounds familiar. he was banging to get in. he was yelling things like that. nothing of terrorist nature.
seemed like something triggered him to go off the wall. he would be calm one minute and all of a sudden turn. >> how long was the whole incident? >> it took about ten or so minutes of him just outside the cockpit door talking calmly to the flight crew. it was kind of odd the way he was talking. i was trying to eves drop on the conversation. i thought something was odd the way he came out of the cockpit unannounced. normally they stand guard. they opened up the doors and there he was. he was speaking weirdly and oddly and talking to the female flight attendant in an odd way, also. he was showing his badge and saying what does this mean and asking questions. every time the flight attendant answered a question his response was why. like 20 whys.
and then the next thing you know he punched the cart out of the way and ran to the back of the plane. that's when he went to the back to get two bottles of water which he was already drinking two up front. he stopped half way up to speak to a random passenger and then ran to the cockpit door and banged on it like he wanted to break in like it is nobody's business yelling to open up, give me the code, put the throttle on idle. >> so i just want you to know what we are looking at is actually your plane from an aerial shot. we have the helicopter shot looking down. one final question. were you worried you were going to die? >> there was a thought of that right when it happened. your family goes through your mind. all i can think of is my wife and my twin children. that's the only thing i can think of. it hit me and i said this can't happen.
and we got out of it thank goodness. if it was going to happen it happened at the right time and the right place. >> certainly thanks to you and those sitting next to you and your heroism. i hope your wife got to hear you here tonight. >> captain chelsea sullenburger is with us now. i don't know if you had a chance to hear the passenger there. obviously emotional there at the end. what do you think listening to that and his rendition, what do you think happened? >> good to be with you. i don't know. it's obvious there was some incapacity on the part of this individual. and i'm heartened to know that it was recognized quickly and crew and passengers acted effectively and quickly to subdue him. obviously the first officer made good choices and was able to get the airplane safely to a
diversion airport quickly. that would have been a high work level with one airman in the cockpit. >> there was the recent experience with the flight attendant. obviously because these things happen in a small window of time doesn't mean there is a trend of this happening. people will ask about the crews who work long hours is there something we should be concerned about? >> this is a very rare incident. we have been flying for 30 year years. we are train today deal with incapacity on the part of crew members. we have a protocol for recognizing it. this was a very unusual circumstance and i'm happy that it had a good outcome. we shouldn't be concerned about this. there are underlying issues that we should be aware of in the airline industry.
you mentioned fatigue. it will be another two years before the new fatigue rules will be in place. equally important and this rule is about to be published by the faa is an increase in the minimum level of pilot experience. right now a first officer and co pilot can have as little as 250 hour hours. industry lobbyists are fighting us. april 30th is the end of the public comment period. it is important that we not water down the pilot experience rule. had the pilot had less experience it would have been that much more difficult to handle this situation and get the airplane safely on the ground. >> i hope a lot of people heard that. thank you very much. sounds clear that that should be something that should get changed immediately. the biggest day at the supreme
court since bush versus gore. that's what our resident skourtd analyst called this day as the justices considered the most crucial question to the health care law. is the health care mandate constitutional? the answer may lie in one justice, justice kennedy. here is questioning he had today. >> that changes the relationship of the federal government to the individual in the very fundamental way. >> you have become a player in this yourself. you call the proceedings today a train wreck for the white house. and then harry reid got very angry at you and here he is.
>> i wouldn't bet on this but i bet i have been in court a lot more than jeffrey toobin. i have had arguments, federal court and trial courts. the questions you get from the judges doesn't mean that is what is going to wind up with the opinion. >> go ahead. >> he's my fellow legal analyst as well as a united states senator. i certainly defer to harry reid in terms of trial experience but this supreme court, these justice justices, they don't play devil's advocate. when they talk and ask questions it is usually easy to tell which way they were leaning. it was quite clear that there were four justices very strongly inclined to support the law. it looked to me like the four who spoke on the other side, clarence thomas didn't say
anything but his views on the subject are well known. it looked like the other four were looking to strike the law down. five to four, this mandate looks like it is doomed to me. >> would you agree with that? and how about to some of the americans who go the supreme court, they are appointed for life. why is this political? >> that is what he is getting to. we are not seeing justices play that impartial devil's advocate role kbmpt justice kennedy came out with very tough lines of questioning. the fact that so many justices seem to reflect these partisan biases of the presidents that appoint them does take a lot of the impartiality out of what we want to hear a supreme court justice say which is to make a determination. the fact that the one swing vote is the one that matters is a big deal.
he did have a tough line of questioning against the government today. >> is the mandate going to fail? >> it looks that way. interestingly the conservative justice who seemed most empathetic to the obama administration was john roberts, the chief justice. he looks like the best choice for a favorable vote but i wouldn't bet on it. we have trayvon martin up next and a chinese murder mystery. we'll be back. e e land. economically, it seems like a good choice now. we need environmental protection. we've got more than 100 years worth of energy, right here. [announcer:] who's right? they all are. visit powerincooperation.com. and i thought "i can't do this, it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going. go for olympic gold and go to college too. [ male announcer ] every day we help students earn
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an attorney for dominique strauss-kahn said his client hasn't broken the law. the former chief is under investigation for a charge of "aggravated pimping." a charge defined as taking profit from prostitution. the married 62 year old has admitted he attended sex parties but denies the women have been paid. >> translator: we can criticize in terms of virtue and how a man should conduct himself. everyone can say what they want in terms of morality. here we are stretching the law. it is being manipulated. it is as if the law punishes behavior but this is unruly conduct. you may hate it. everyone is entitled to their own opinion but it is not a crime.
number four, consumer confidence dropped slightly by 1.4 points in march. according to the index the dip comes from people feeling upset about rising gas prices and having a lack of faith in the job market. an analyst said there is strong news because more americans say they plan to make a large purchase like a car or home in the next six months. it has been 236 days since america lost the credit rating. the bill heads to the president who is expected to sign it into law. more details about 17-year-old trayvon martin. according to reports the florida teen who was shot and killed by george zimmerman last month had been suspended from school three times over the past year. in addition to finding traces of marijuana in his backpack he was suspended for skipping class. martin's parents call the
suspensions irrelevant. they continue to insist that their son was killed because he is black. >> i would just like to say that, of course, my heart is broken. but it breaks even more to know that we have not gotten justice yet and that this man has not been arrested for shooting and killing my son. >> athenna jones is covering the story for us in washington tonight. i know you were there at the hearing. obviously very emotional. >> absolutely especially after that hearing. took her several seconds to be able to speak. sybrina fulton. there were very strong words in particular from the congress woman from florida who represents the communities we were talking about. wilson said she knew trayvon's family.
both of them talked about this botched investigation. said the family feels the system isn't working for them. representative wilson said she will be counting down the days until there is an arrest. thoot is the overall focus of today's forum and that is giving members of congress a chance to show the support for trayvon martin's parents and keep the pressure on to show that they want to see this case, see zimmerman arrested and see this case tried in a court of law. >> the case is a lightning rod of controversy across the country. allegations of racial profiling have motivated thousands to rally demanding the arrest of the neighborhood watchman, george zimmerman. the question some have is, is the country jumping the gun. let me start with you. you have made the comment that
reverend al sharpton and rev rn jesse jackson are "exploiting the tragedy." what do you mean? >> whenever there is something like this that occurs like bradley or the duke lacrosse team you can guarantee that two faces will show up in order to heighten the tension in this type of situation and they are usually reverend sharpton and reverend jackson. our hearts do go out to this mother because she has lost a son who is 17 years old. that, though, is an issue that i do believe justice will find its way to remedy. >> how do you respond to that? is there anything to that concern about reverend sharpton? >> two million people have signed the change.org petition. so reverend bryant is taking issue with two folks. were they the only people who
were there? there were thousands of people there. reverend bryant of baltimore was there. there were catholic priests there. there were baptist preachers there. if he has a personal problem with reverend sharpton and jackson that's his problem. when you have vigils and rallies in 50 cities they are out there because of the issue at hand. if you have a problem with them that is your problem. we are focused on this case. >> let's have the same type of energy towards the young lady, the little girl who was killed on her door steps in chicago who was six years old. let's gather two million people and talk about the black on black crime that is going on, the most dangerous person in the life of a young black man is another young black man. and the type of ideas that are
spawned when we gather together over a white on black murder. in fact, there is not an epidemic of white men killing black boys. there is an epidemic of black men killing black men and all of them know that. let's focus the energy on solving the problem that happens every day, not something that happens once in a while. >> here is what i find to be interesting here because i went to your twitter page. you have made nope comment on anything since february 24th. you have made no comment on your facebook page. the only comment you made about shootings in chicago was when you were criticizing reverend sharpton and jackson. i know the apostle paul differed with the disciple peter. are you in chicago? are you leading marches? are you stepping up? how weak is it to say what
somebody else is not doing when you should be a leading voice? have you been to chicago? >> i have paid my dues. >> there is no record where you have said a word -- >> your question is, what dues have i paid. i have had the clan and the skin heads after me over school bussing. just this past month here where i live in shreveport, louisiana, the skin heads and the area nation was trying to move into our area. i along with other pastors have done that. what we are doing, what we are doing is, in fact, trying to deal with a powder keg here that we need to keep this, the top on. that is what we are trying to do. you haven't been looking at the right pages. you google c.l. bryant and you will see where i have been. >> i understand you both differ
on this issue of chicago. i want to ask you about something he raised. department of justice 2005. half of all male homicide victims are black. shouldn't we be doing something about that, too? >> there are people who are doing that. i run national black website. i have a show on a black cable network. there are people who are doing that. that is a different argument to say what we are doing about that when he wants to specifically criticize sharpton and jackson. he hasn't said a word about the shootings in chicago. all i'm saying i can guarantee you that james meeks, charles jenkins, reverend clay, a number of those pastors in chicago would love to hear from you. don't sit here and waste time criticizing criticizing. you specifically called him
about the shootings in chicago yet you are not on the record on your own website of saying or doing anything. you let me know -- >> let me go on record tonight. >> you let me know when you go to chicago and i will see you there when you want to discuss black on black violence in chicago. >> let me go on record tonight and say let's put your ideology on the table and put mine on the table. i call you out tonight. we can meet in chicago. we can meet in newark and let's see whose ideology best suits the traditional core values of a black american people. let's see whose yoipds stand to mustard. i accept whatever challenge you have but i throw down the gauntlet tonight. let's have a test of the different ideaologies.
>> can i ask you both? >> that's funny considering i'm not a liberal condition. >> when you both go come back here and let's continue this conversation. >> i will show up wherever you need me to show up. >> you are going to call jackson and sharpton out you show up. >> i have been calling them out for a long time. >> that's why you are here. >> i remember negroday in the south. i have paid my dues in the south. my grandfather said he didn't go through what he went through so i could be black. he went through what he went through so i could be free. say what i want to say and talk to who i want to talk to. >> i will see you both in chicago or newark. please everyone let us know what you think about that conversation on twitter. there is a violent video said to show the murder of seven people in france leaked to the
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shows the kilg set to music, religious readings and singing to the reading of the quran. made sure he had the full shot as he killed his victims. i asked if the video could be leaked. >> it is pretty difficult to imagine that these videos won't eventually end up in the public domain. they were sent to al jazeera as computer files on a usb key. we know if this is the only copy of the video. perhaps there are other copies out there. we know there is editing done in the sense that there was music put to some of the horrific scenes as well as versus from the quran.
and now a coo in china after a political scandal at the communist party's highest levels went public. this man was at one point talked about as the next president of china. he was the secretary of one of the largest cities in the country. without explunashz the communist party purged him from their ranks. no one knows where he is right now. this is where it begins to sound like a tom clancy novel. a british man was found dead in his hotel room late last year. the journal reports he was a consultant for an intelligence company. chinese officials say he died from drinking too much and cremated him immediately. suspicion is growing about his friendship. the british government has asked china to investigate the death. this story is very bazaar.
talk about a coup in china. what is really going on? stan grant is covering the story from beijing. it was amazing to see it on social media sites where were there gun shots. truly unusual that it is happening happening, isn't it? >> reporter: absolutely. you are so right. this does read like a spy novel. it is absolutely captivated people here in china. what we are seeing is we are peering into the corridors here of power, the inner sanctum, the secretive inner sanctum of the public bureau and it involves a man. you can go right back to 1949 with the communist revolution here. his father was a right-hand man. he was seen as a revolutionary
hero. he moved through the political ranks and appointed as the chief secretary. that's a massive city in southwest china more than 30 million people. now at that time he launched an anticrime crusade. he shot down a lot of the corrupt business men. he formed a top cop turned on him. in february he went to the american consulate seeking asylum apparently in fear for his life and holding incriminating information. that a man once talked about as a talked about as a future president has been sacked from his post. and now we've got the information about neil haywood, a british business mab found dead in a chongqing neighborhood. all of this apparently leading right back to the heart of power in china.
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all right. tomorrow on "outfront" we've got the attorney for staff sergeant robert bales who's charged with 17 counts of murder in afghanistan. we're going to ask him all the questions out there about his client, about his defense, what kinds of conversations he's had. all of that tomorrow. he will be with me here on set. we're looking forward to seeing him. thanks for watching. continue to give us your twitter